Discussion:
Greatest living urdu poet
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Rahul
2006-12-28 20:41:21 UTC
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On the sad demise of Munir Niazi,I came through this line in a news
report.
"After Faiz, it was difficult to decide who was the greatest living
Urdu poet, Ahmad Faraz or Munir Niazi. Now only Faraz is left."
I know, it is sometimes difficult to compare poets and poetry, but I
find Amjad Islam Amjad better than Faraz.I would like to know what
other members think about this in particular and in general about the
thread topic.
rgds
Rahul
Rahul
2006-12-28 20:54:00 UTC
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Amjad Sahib kii ek nazm...

taarikH ki uljhi galiyoN meN
kuchh Dher parhe haiN malbe ke
malba jo hamaare dard ka hai!
har dekhne waali aankh ka hai
har sochne waale fard ka hai
har manzar dhundla dhundla hai
kuchh aisa parda gard ka hai!
wo log jo aage guzar gaye
kya sacha tha unka jhooT tha kya!
kis haq ki kHaatir laRhte the!
kis zulm ke haathoN marte the
kya kHwaab the unki aankhoN ke
aur kya unki taabeereN thiN?
jo seel-e-zamaaN ka rizq huiN
wo kya mahkam taameereN thiN?

arzhang jo leer-o-leer hua
kya kya uss meN tasveereN thiN?
aur paani par jo likhiN gayiN
wo kya mushkil tahreereN thiN?

ik dasht ki jalti miTTi par
kya bahte lahoo ne likha tha!
pardes ke qaatil rastoN meN
kya marte huoN ne socha tha!
jo ahle-chashm ki saf meN gaye
mahloN meN takHt nasheen hue
muflis ke lahoo ke chhenToN se
wo daaman jo rangeen hue
aur kHalq-e-kHuda ke qismat ke
jo maalik ban kar baiTh gaye
laashoN par masnad rakhi aur
phir uss pe tan ke baiTh gaye

au wo jo ilm ke joya the
taaroN pe kamande Daalte the
jo apni soch ke gulshan meN
aafaaq ke taayer paalte the
Taksaal meN fikr-e-farda ki
wajdaan ke sikke Dhaalte the
aur wo jo ishq meN rusva the
jo mirza, raanjhan, heer hue
kHud DhoonDa husn ke phande ko
phir chal kar aap aseer hue
baatan meN utar kar harfoN ke
jo gHalib, kHusro, meer hue
ye sab aur inn se aur kayi
is seel-e-zamaaN ka rizq bane
is gard ke manzar naame meN
ik abr-e-gumaaN ka rizq bane

ab apni apni rau meN haiN
hai kisko fursta, kaun ruke!
kya raaz haiN dil darvaazoN ke?
ab kaun sune aur kaun kahe!
kuchh ghuTti, marti cheekHeN haiN
kuchh larze hue avaaze haiN
kuchh kHauf hai patthar ban ne ka
kuchh bhaTke hue andaaze haiN
kuchh zakhm haiN jinke naam nahi
kuchh bhugte hue kHamiyaaze haiN
tarteeb kaise ho safhoN ki!
sab bikhre hue sheeraze haiN

murgHoN ki tarah iss malbe meN
minqaar daba kar kya hoga
ye raunde hue se taaj o kalaah
maathoN par saja ke kya hoga

jo nauhoN meN tabdeel hue
wo nagHme ga kar kya hoga!
agloN ki jeet aur haar se ham
kyuN kHush haiN! kyuN sharmeenda haiN!
hai lauh-e-jahaaN pe darj yahi
ham apna aap aayinda haiN
bas aik haqeeqat yaad rahe
jis saans talak ham zinda haiN
aao ke chune iss malbe se
jo kHwaab abhi tabeenda haiN
un jazboN ki tauqeer kareN
jo anmiT haiN, paayinda haiN
bas un taaroN ki baat kareN
jo bujh kar bhi rakhshinda haiN

is gard ke manzarnaame meN
jo apne kahe se ruk jaaye
aisa to koi mausam bhi nahi
ye sach hai aankh jhaptke tak
manzar bhi nahi aur ham bhi nahi
ai baad-e-fana se Darte dil
jo dekh sake to kam bhi nahi!
ye nazaare ki fursat bhi!
kuchh kar sakne ki taaqat bhi!
ye pal do pal ki muhlat bhi!
Post by Rahul
On the sad demise of Munir Niazi,I came through this line in a news
report.
"After Faiz, it was difficult to decide who was the greatest living
Urdu poet, Ahmad Faraz or Munir Niazi. Now only Faraz is left."
I know, it is sometimes difficult to compare poets and poetry, but I
find Amjad Islam Amjad better than Faraz.I would like to know what
other members think about this in particular and in general about the
thread topic.
rgds
Rahul
Naseer
2006-12-29 23:07:07 UTC
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Rahul Sahib, aadaab 'arz hai!

maiN ne Amjad Islam Amjad kaa kalaam sire se paRhaa hii nahiiN. ek
taviil awr Khuub-suurat naz pesh karne kaa shukriyah.

mere pass ek kitaab hai, jis meN chand mash_huur shaa'roN kaa ikkaa
dukkaa namuunah pesh kiyaa gayaa hai. usii se Amjad Sahib kii Ghazal
naql kar rahaa huuN.

kisii kii aaNkh jo pur-nam nahiiN hai
nah samjho yih kih us ko Gham nahiiN hai

savaad-i-dard meN tanhaa khaRaa huuN
palaT jaauuN magar mausam nahiiN hai

samajh meN kuchh nahiiN aataa kisii kii
agarchih gugtuguu mubham nahiiN hai

sulagtaa kyoN nahiiN tariik jangal
talab kii buu agar madham nahiiN hai

yih bastii hai sitam parvardagaaN kii
yahaaN koii kisii se kam nahiiN hai

kinaaraa duusaraa daryaa kaa jaise
vuh saathii hai magar maHram nahiiN hai

diloN kii raushanii bujhne nah denaa
vujuud-i-tiiragii muHkam nahiiN hai

maiN tum ko chaah kar pachhtaa rahaa huuN
koii us zaKHm kaa marham nahiiN hai

jo koii sun sake Amjad to dunyaa
ba-juz ik baaz gasht-i-Gham nahiiN hai

Amjad Isalm Amjad



Naseer
Naseer
2007-01-05 15:08:57 UTC
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Rahul Sahib, aadaab!

liijiye ek Amjad Islam Amjad kii Ghazal.


chihre pe mere zulf ko phailaao kisii din
kayaa roz garajte ho, baras jaao kisii din


raazoN kii taraH utaro mere dil meN kisii shab
dastak pe mere haath kii khul jaao kisii din

peRoN kii taraH Husn kii baarish meN nahaa luuN
baadal kii taraH jhuum ke ghir aao kisii din

KHush-buu kii taraH guzaro mere dil kii galii se
phuuloN kii taraH mujh pih bikhar jaao kisii din


Naseer
Mohib
2007-01-07 07:20:41 UTC
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Amjad saahab kii ek Ghazal:

manzar ke ird-gird bhii aur aar paar dhund
aa'ii kahaaN se aaNkh meN ye be-shumaar dhund

kaise na us kaa saaraa safar raaygaaN rahe
jis kaarvaan-e-shauq kii hai rahguzaar dhund

hai ye jo maah-o-saal kaa melaa lagaa hu'aa
kartii hai is meN chhup ke meraa intizaar dhund

aaNkheN vo bazm, jis kaa nishaaN dolte chiraagh
dil vo chaman, ke jis kaa hai rang-e-bahaar dhund

kamre meN mere Gham ke sivaa aur kuch nahiiN
khirkii se jhaaNktii hai kise baar-baar dhund

firdaus-e-gosh thehraa hai mubham saa ko'ii shor
nazaargii kaa shah'r meN hai aitbaar, dhund

naaTak meN jaise bikhre hoN kirdaar jaa-ba-jaa
"Amjad" fizaa-e-jaaN meN hai yuN be-qaraar dhund
Kali Hawa
2007-01-07 12:04:21 UTC
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Post by Mohib
manzar ke ird-gird bhii aur aar paar dhund
aa'ii kahaaN se aaNkh meN ye be-shumaar dhund
kaise na us kaa saaraa safar raaygaaN rahe
jis kaarvaan-e-shauq kii hai rahguzaar dhund
hai ye jo maah-o-saal kaa melaa lagaa hu'aa
kartii hai is meN chhup ke meraa intizaar dhund
aaNkheN vo bazm, jis kaa nishaaN dolte chiraagh
dil vo chaman, ke jis kaa hai rang-e-bahaar dhund
kamre meN mere Gham ke sivaa aur kuch nahiiN
khirkii se jhaaNktii hai kise baar-baar dhund
firdaus-e-gosh thehraa hai mubham saa ko'ii shor
nazaargii kaa shah'r meN hai aitbaar, dhund
naaTak meN jaise bikhre hoN kirdaar jaa-ba-jaa
"Amjad" fizaa-e-jaaN meN hai yuN be-qaraar dhund
This Ghazal has great racy tempo. Truly inspired poetry
Thank you for posting this piece.
Post by Mohib
kamre meN mere Gham ke sivaa aur kuch nahiiN
khirkii se jhaaNktii hai kise baar-baar dhund
will this be correct spelling?

'DhuNNd'. the 'N' sound kind of resonates when enunciating this
mysterious word.
Zoya
2007-01-14 02:50:25 UTC
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Rahul Sahib,

While alive, Munir Niyazi Sahib was the undisputed number one Urdu poet
of current era. He excelled in the writing of both ghazals and nazms.

I have been thinking about the question that you have raised for the
last few weeks. Amjad Islam Amjad Sahib is a close personal friend of
mine, and during a phone conversation with him a few days ago, I
discussed this matter with him also.

Without being modest, Amjad Islam Sahib is of the view that Ahmad Faraz
Sahib is indeed the greatest living Urdu poet right new. Having read
both Amjad Islam Sahib and Ahmad Faraz Sahib extensively, I tend to
agree with this opinion. I am talking strictly about poetry here. As a
person, Amjad Islam Sahib is one of the finest gentlemen I have ever
known.

In some literary circles, Zafar Iqbal Sahib is considered the greatest
living ghazal writer, but he has written almost no nazms and is not
nearly as popular with the masses as Faraz Sahib or Amjad Islam Sahib.

I wish other learned friends like Zaf Sahib and Amjad Nabeel Sahib
would contribute to this thread.

Regards,

___________Zoya

________Zoya
Zoya
2007-01-14 02:53:51 UTC
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Rahul Sahib,

While alive, Munir Niyazi Sahib was the undisputed number one Urdu poet
of current era. He excelled in the writing of both ghazals and nazms.

I have been thinking about the question that you have raised for the
last few weeks. Amjad Islam Amjad Sahib is a close personal friend of
mine, and during a phone conversation with him a few days ago, I
discussed this matter with him also.

Without being modest, Amjad Islam Sahib is of the view that Ahmad Faraz
Sahib is indeed the greatest living Urdu poet right new. Having read
both Amjad Islam Sahib and Ahmad Faraz Sahib extensively, I tend to
agree with this opinion. I am talking strictly about poetry here. As a
person, Amjad Islam Sahib is one of the finest gentlemen I have ever
known.

In some literary circles, Zafar Iqbal Sahib is considered the greatest
living ghazal writer, but he has written almost no nazms and is not
nearly as popular with the masses as Faraz Sahib or Amjad Islam Sahib.

I wish other learned friends like Zaf Sahib and Amjad Nabeel Sahib
would contribute to this thread.

Regards,

________Zoya
Kali Hawa
2007-01-14 04:46:54 UTC
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Post by Zoya
I wish other learned friends like Zaf Sahib and Amjad Nabeel Sahib
would contribute to this thread.
Regards,
________Zoya
You had promised to post Zafar Iqbal's representative ghazal. Whatever
happened to promises these days? I am really curious.
Rahul
2007-01-16 06:19:36 UTC
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Zoya Sahiba,
Thanks for your input. I wouldnt take Amjad Sahibs word on it, because
there is a conflict of inerest :-), but I take your word, because I
have not extensively read both of these poets.My impression, for
whatever its worth, is that Amjad is more versatile than Faraz. I would
be grateful if you could post any nazm of a similar mood by Faraz like
the one I posted by Amjad.
And my main purpose is to know both these poets more closely, not to
decide the "winner", but sometimes discussions like these are fun.
Thanks,Mohib and Naseer Bhai for sharing.
Post by Naseer
Rahul Sahib,
While alive, Munir Niyazi Sahib was the undisputed number one Urdu poet
of current era. He excelled in the writing of both ghazals and nazms.
I have been thinking about the question that you have raised for the
last few weeks. Amjad Islam Amjad Sahib is a close personal friend of
mine, and during a phone conversation with him a few days ago, I
discussed this matter with him also.
Without being modest, Amjad Islam Sahib is of the view that Ahmad Faraz
Sahib is indeed the greatest living Urdu poet right new. Having read
both Amjad Islam Sahib and Ahmad Faraz Sahib extensively, I tend to
agree with this opinion. I am talking strictly about poetry here. As a
person, Amjad Islam Sahib is one of the finest gentlemen I have ever
known.
In some literary circles, Zafar Iqbal Sahib is considered the greatest
living ghazal writer, but he has written almost no nazms and is not
nearly as popular with the masses as Faraz Sahib or Amjad Islam Sahib.
I wish other learned friends like Zaf Sahib and Amjad Nabeel Sahib
would contribute to this thread.
Regards,
________Zoya
Vijay
2007-01-16 10:29:35 UTC
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I came to Amjad Islaam Amjad late and have only read him sparingly, but
he leaves me in no doubt that he is one of the best. I am vastly more
familiar with Faraaz and based on this more comprehensive knowledge of
his work, I will pick him as my 'most favorite living poet' by a small
margin.. As to the 'greatest living poet' I will leave that to the more
knowledgeable than I.

Rahul sahib, if you can, do post something more by Dushyant Kumar.


Vijay Kumar
Post by Rahul
Zoya Sahiba,
Thanks for your input. I wouldnt take Amjad Sahibs word on it, because
there is a conflict of inerest :-), but I take your word, because I
have not extensively read both of these poets.My impression, for
whatever its worth, is that Amjad is more versatile than Faraz. I would
be grateful if you could post any nazm of a similar mood by Faraz like
the one I posted by Amjad.
And my main purpose is to know both these poets more closely, not to
decide the "winner", but sometimes discussions like these are fun.
Thanks,Mohib and Naseer Bhai for sharing.
Post by Naseer
Rahul Sahib,
While alive, Munir Niyazi Sahib was the undisputed number one Urdu poet
of current era. He excelled in the writing of both ghazals and nazms.
I have been thinking about the question that you have raised for the
last few weeks. Amjad Islam Amjad Sahib is a close personal friend of
mine, and during a phone conversation with him a few days ago, I
discussed this matter with him also.
Without being modest, Amjad Islam Sahib is of the view that Ahmad Faraz
Sahib is indeed the greatest living Urdu poet right new. Having read
both Amjad Islam Sahib and Ahmad Faraz Sahib extensively, I tend to
agree with this opinion. I am talking strictly about poetry here. As a
person, Amjad Islam Sahib is one of the finest gentlemen I have ever
known.
In some literary circles, Zafar Iqbal Sahib is considered the greatest
living ghazal writer, but he has written almost no nazms and is not
nearly as popular with the masses as Faraz Sahib or Amjad Islam Sahib.
I wish other learned friends like Zaf Sahib and Amjad Nabeel Sahib
would contribute to this thread.
Regards,
________Zoya
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